Friday, March 30, 2007
The Details Of South Capitol Street
For some time now, I have feared that The New Nationals Park rising on South Capitol Street would be similar to many new stadiums built over the years. Instead of being intimate, with fans sitting right down in front and over top the field, like RFK Stadium, the new ballpark would push fans farther away from the action. And, the higher a fan sits, the players look more like ants in newer stadiums. You might as well watch the game on TV. Take a look at FedEx Field in Landover. The very first row of the top tier of The Redskins Stadium is farther away than the last rows of RFK Stadium's Upper Reaches.
Nothing stood out more at New Nationals Park, during my private tour this past Tuesday, than the closeness of the seats to the playing field. In fact, while Andy, SenatorNat and I stood on the main concourse surrounding the lower bowl, we determined that the very last row in front of that concourse is CLOSER than where we sit at RFK STADIUM in Section 320 (We are 25 rows from the field at RFK). Even more impressive were the seats on the UPPER CONCOURSE. Just a fabulous view--looking right out over top of the field. The Upper Concourse Seats sit like a giant high chair back, and views are nothing short of stunning!!
I asked Ronnie Strompf, VP of Clark Construction and Senior Project Superintendent for the Stadium Project, how far was the very last row, high up, behind home plate from the field?
"About 130 Feet, somewhere in that neighborhood. (How does that compare to RFK Stadium--SBF?) About 300 Feet for RFK. More than twice the distance. This is for baseball only. You could fit this new ballpark inside RFK Stadium. This stadium is very compact. It’s a nice layout, architecturally its going to be very pleasing. This is going to be a loud stadium. The closed in compact design is going to keep the fans upclose. Its going to be exciting. I know it."
Even with the park being open to the outfield, the sound will still remain trapped inside?--SBF
“I believe so, really."
Ronnie is the point man for the Stadium Construction Project. He arrives on site each morning at 5:15AM, many days not leaving until 7:30PM. And, DC Sports and Entertainment Executive Director, Allen Lew, would not have taken on the ballpark project happily, if Ronnie was not working with him.
"I trust him to get the job done. He has a great attention to detail," said Lew. "I wanted Ronnie, so Clark (Construction) took him off another job. He made sure we got done on time at The Convention Center. I have confidence in him. A great guy.
It’s hard, a demanding project, you have to be able to trust the guys that work for you. If not, nothing gets done properly."
Any question I asked on the 41,000 Seat Ballpark, Strompf had the answer.
"The structure is laid out this way," Ronnie said. " Lower Bowl, with the majority of the seats (22,000). The first section overhanging the main concourse is club level. The section above that, with a real thin band between levels is also club, but called suite level. The next section, the open area between the high and low pre-caste levels—that’s the Upper Concourse, lower seating and higher seating (12,100 total seats). So, you have 5 levels total, and The Press Box on top of the back lip of the Upper Deck. The highest section of the stadium goes from first base to third base. But, the Upper Concourse does have two sets of seating, lower concourse seating and Upper Concourse Seating. In dead centerfield will be a restaurant with graded seating in front for patrons of the restaurant. All your high structures from the infield from 1st to 3rd, on the second and third tier, is where all your money generating suites are. They will be very well appointed. Sliding widows, all the amenities and an open air feeling. People are going to like those seats."
Currently the lower bowls permanent concrete seating structures are in place. So I asked how many rows will be added in front of those contrete settings?
“Those are the ongrade seating structures, about 10 rows. Those seats will be added, but they are not structural pre-caste like the majority of the seating areas in the main bowl. Everything in front of the concrete pre-caste onward to 70 feet is slope fill and on grade seating there. About 3/4th of the seats in the stadium, fans will enter from the concourse level and walk down. That will allow for people to move in and exit really quick. It’s a really neat setup."
Since the slope grade seating is not pre-caste, is it possible they will shake allowing fans to jump up and down like on the 3rd base side at RFK Stadium's lower level?
"Not the seats surrounding the infield, but we do have what we are calling “Bouncing Seats” that are being made especially for that purpose. They have a lot of vibration and promotes excitement for the fans. Those will be over the left field wall.”
If I am at Citizens Bank Park in Philadelphia and standing on their main concourse, buying something from a vendor, I can still watch the game clearly due to the openness of the park. Will that be the same here on South Capitol Street?
“We will have the exact same thing here. And, you will be able to eat your meal, while standing at a waist high table directly behind the last row of the main bowl seats, and still watch the game.” (Sohna and I experienced this at Citizens Bank Park and we felt it was one of most fan friendly amenities of that stadum-SBF) “Stainless Steel Stand Up Tables, they will be well used."
The Main Concourse is WIDE, not like the thin narrow bands at RFK STADIUM. On the outer rims of the concourse the food stalls, memorabilia shops and bathrooms are being placed. Portable food carts will ring the inside of the concourse behind the last row of the lower bowl and the Stand Up Waist High Tables. But, just to be sure, I asked Ronnie whether the food offerings for the average fan that loves baseball will be affordable?
"Those fans will have the same opportunities as any other person that walks into this stadium. You still have to pay for your own hotdog. And it probably won’t cost as much, for sure (everyone laughing). The restaurant out here (in centerfield) will most likely carry many of the same fare as you can find anywhere else (in the stadium). Every fan will have ample opportunity to enjoy themselves in many different ways here."
Philip Artin, Allen Lew's assistant from the DCSEC jumped in to comment: "The average fan will be more comfortable, if not as comfortable as the high end fans. This stadium will have a lot to offer. This stadium is going to be very intimate, very nice. Fans are going to enjoy coming here. We visited almost every single stadium (in MLB). The Architect and Allen’s Team visited virtually every stadium that was built in the past 10 years. So, we have picked up all the best elements from those. AT&T Park in San Franciso and Kauffman Stadium in Kansas City were two that we pulled a lot of ideas from. Both of those stadiums were built by the same architect (HOK). Just like in San Francisco, or Philadelphia—you can do the same thing here, while standing in line for food, hot dog or a beer. You can watch the game, easily. You will not miss anything."
In the main bowl of the stadium, the lighting towers are already in place. And, showing how advanced construction, just like everything in life, has become easier due to computers, Ronnie talked about the Stadium Lighting Grid.
"All the lights on the stadium are pre-programmed by a computer to shine down in certain definitive spots. There should be no adjusting of any of the lights once they are set in place on the stantions. Each goes to a specific spot in the stadium, from its individual light tower. I have a $20 Bet with my electrician that something will have to be adjusted, but he assures me that will not be the case. We shall see."
SBF—So right now, as we look at the light already in place. They will never have to be adjusted?
“That is correct. Everything we do now is done by these computer models that actually are rendered in 3D. Its called an “X” Model. All the details and configurations are laid into this model. The Programmers can make the final outcome anyway you want it. Then, once everyone agrees on the dimensions, then the programmer just presses a button and all the drawings start coming out from that. Whether it’s the lights, the Steel Work, the concrete placements, its all preprogrammed. We take those printouts and go from there. There is no guess work. It is a very, very reliable and excellent program. There has been virtually no adjustment with the steel work. They (the computer programmers) did an great job with it." (Because of the computer printouts, has that made the tight production schedule more manageable?-SBF) "Even with our very ambitious schedule here, we have been able to meet every schedule step without any problems at all. "
Ronnie continued: "These light towers come all the way to the end of each wing of the stadium. And, one light tower each will be placed in Right and Left Field. Right now, the concept of lighting is to minimize residual light into the neighborhood. So, everything is cast down. You are really not going to see nothing but a lite glow from outside the park. Beyond the stadium, you will not be able to see the light projecting out. The architects made the effort to take in the effect on the residential and business neighborhoods in the area. When they designed it. Its going to look really nice, the light will project out through the stadiums openness."
"There are 400 workers here now, which consists of the major trade construction group. That includes your concrete, foundation, steel, electrical, plumbing and sprinkler on the job. We have Masons now. As we get more linear footage out here (to work), then we will be adding to each crew, on a neighborhood of 25 guys per group. Then, we bring on the DryWall Guys. We actually started the painting crew today. So, we have washed down all the steel, to start painting. Then we shall add all the misc. metals. (Once the steel and concrete is all in place the detail work will begin. 1000 trade construction workers will be on site, each and every day, until ballpark conclusion--SBF).
What's sort of funny about the Stadium Site, is that there is a concrete company, scheduled to move off the premises of Potomac Ave, SE, directly behind the South Side of Nationals Park. So I asked Ronnie: Everyone is curious to know whether you are getting your concrete from across the street (Everyone laughs)?
“Yes, (even more laughs) Someone asked that yesterday. How long that (company) might last. I don’t know (the company is being pressured to leave). Lets hope they last until we finish. We are counting on it.” (BIG LAUGHS NOW)
As we walked around the park, you can, right now, see The Capitol Building clearly from the lower bowl on the third base side of the ballpark. Although, once the Four Story Parking Structures are built in right and left field, along with the Near SE buildout, that view most likely will disappear. But, from the Upper Deck, The Washington Monument can be seen by nearly everyone from their seats, and even from those that sit in the back half of the lower first base side. SenatorNat estimates that 2/3rd of the seats at Nationals Ballpark will see some portion of The Washington Monument. That's Nice Folks, anyway you cut it.
But, it still begged the question, whether after all the build out on the Anacostia Waterfront happens, do you anticipate any views of The Capitol remaining?
"Yes, I believe so," replied Ronnie. "You will see the angle from the stadium to The Capitol. It is ironic that the less expensive seats have the best view. And, the Press Box (on the top of the stadium) will have a beautiful panoramic view of The Capitol, which is kind of amazing. The guys in the more expensive seasts will be entrenched in the lower sections. They are going to miss it.”
After heading to the Upper Concourse to take in the fine views, we headed down into the underground sections of the ballpark. This included the Nationals Locker Room. The Nats Clubhouse sits directly under the first base stands, with a slanted ceiling. Ronnie informed me that 6" batt insulation will dull, but not take away, the noise and pounding of the fans sitting above.
Included in the home clubhouse, is a special indoor batting cage, with Glass Viewing Portal, for Diamond Club Members. Right now, you can't get a good idea of what it will be like from this picture. But, I have asked to return at certain major points in construction to take like pictures from the same vantage points. The Time Lapse will be quite revealing, and fun.
Having seen The Nationals New Ballpark slowly rising on South Capitol Street, I still didn't really know what to expect when I was given the wonderful opportunity, courtesy of Bill Hall (Partner in the law firm "Winston & Strawn"), to make a private tour of the construction site. Many times, I have stated my love of RFK Stadium, but after spending two hours on site personally seeing the new stadium coming to life, I am quite thriled.
The compact, intimate nature of the New Nationals Ballpark was exciting to see. If, through all miracles, Allen Lew, Ronnie Strompf and a host of others pull off a Limestone Looking, Glass Gleaming, Bright Shining New Signature Fixture for Our Washington Nationals and our City--Washington, DC, being a Baseball Fan in The Nation's Capital will be ONE FABULOUS EXPERIENCE!!
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Did anyone in the blogosphere go to the community meeting Thursday night? About 200 mostly angry stadium neighbors attended the Nats' and DDOT's presentations on how the new stadium is to affect traffic. People who live my way (along the red line), I'm guessing, would be well served to find a green line stop and take Metro, which will exit much closer to the ballpark than the current Metro stop does. Virginians probably have the fewest good options. Driving will be very difficult, and parking will be scarce (less than 5000 spaces) and expensive. The Nats are negotiating supplying shuttle buses from the RFK parking lots. That might help a bit.
Paul: The lady that does the terrific jdland site attended and posted a ton of news as always. Not sure about anyone else. I know that Allen Lew was monitoring it for DCSEC.
At this link:
http://www.jdland.com/dc/stadium.cfm?tab=news
I live in Virginia-Alexandria. We are in the worst shape on driving or metro. I took the Green Line to The Stadium Site for this tour. Obviously, the Half Street exit is closed for renovation, so I had to exit New Jersey Ave. SE. But, once the renovation is complete, the Half Street Metro exit is easily half the distance or less than Stadium Armory at RFK.
Personally, I have always felt the shuttle from RFK will not be successful. Its just adds to much extra time to coming and going from the stadium. But, you never know until you try. Thanks.
This is great stuff, SBF. My brother and I have seats in the 400s above home plate, and we've been concerned that the upperdeck seats that we'll certainly get at the new stadium would be much higher than our current seats. It seems as though this is not going to be the case, so I'm very happy to know that.
SBF....very nice post....love all the pictures and the great detail in the questions......Thanks....
Did you see the game on TV yesterday?.....back to reallity for 2007....looks like Snelling should have caught that ball that gave the O's the lead and he looked over matched while watching strike 3 to end the game.
While on some team he might be a 4th outfielder....maybe....He is not part of any long term any solution for a Team that is going to be a dominate winner once "the plan" works......It is going to be a very long season and I would at least like to see players that have a better up side than what I watched yesterday to end the game.....watching strike 3 is no way to build a winning tradition and loyalty of fans.
natsfan7:Its a very compact stadium. Lower in height than the the top of RFK. The Press Box, which will sit on top of the back "HIGH CHAIR" will probably make the height closer to RFK, but the last row of seats, according to the construction execs, are half the distance away from home plate as RFK. Remember, the lower bowl seats the great majority of patrons. The Upper Deck only seats 12,000. Big Difference from RFK. Thanks
This is a great rundown, SBF. Thank you. This is the first time I've seen anybody analyze things like how far the upper deck is from the action. I am very reassured.
My seats in RFK are in 417, and I'd like to get something similar in the new place. I now think that anything I get in the upper deck will be fantastic.
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